. >> the former director of speech for president clinton, ryan. you couldn't even restrain yourself from rolling your eyes there. >> you know, i think that actually it's good for president obama to seem humble and thoughtful and hey, i didn't have a great night. i personally don't think that was the key problem. i think that mitt romney was bet e prepared, but also, president obama has a tough time defending his record when he's confronted with someone who's nimble and more moderate. so i think that was fundament fundamentally awkward. i think the idea that barack obama were to call out mitt romney for lying, it's very popular with the democratic base. those persuadable swing voters might find that unpleasant. so it's a sensible thipg for him to say on a radio show, but in reality, i'm not sure if that would make president obama seem appealing. >> i have to say michael from the focus group, what i saw, that is going to play much better. 39 people. but anytime someone said someone was a liar, dishonest, people don't like hearing it. >> he needs to